i am about to get a mature female C. longi' and i really really REALLY want to get this species established in the hobby this time around! (due to living situation a couple/few years back i had to get rid of virtually all my bugs, including the two (or three?) species of Calisoga i collected on an awesome bug trip)
i was wondering who else keeps them?
i am also looking for mature males for purchase, trade, or 50/50
(note: *technically* this spider is known as Brachythele longitarsus... but that just plain doesn't make sense and a worker needs to fix it)
it appears males can mature in about 2 years then, possibly a bit less. *i would guess that means a female could be mature in maybe 3-5 years, grown the same way. *which means about a 10-15 year life span, grown the same way
so i would guess they can do about 20 years in nature, if they are lucky
VERY rough extrapolations, of course
they do seem to be somewhat substantiated by other captive experiences... i.e. having mature females live 3+ years in captivity
man, that actually makes me pretty happy. if they grew *a bit faster i wold be a bit happier... but i am well pleased with that. *they grow quick enough that if we do things right we could have a good amount of breedable, beautiful mature females in 4-6 years. *that's not so very bad. *some of the dang local tarantulas roughly double all those time values i gave
oh man! * if everyone is very careful we might be able to selectively breed them to be faster growing! *it would be pretty easy... everyone who wants to play along at home would just need to track how fast their various slings mature... and we would just breed all the fastest maturing together. *then we can line breed the fastest maturing male from the first round of selective breeding back to his mom to hopefully lock in those fast growing genes. a bit more play like that and i bet we could get males that mature in 1.25 or 1.5 years by the third generation. *we might even be able to compress that down to a year by the fifth or sixth generation if we are lucky. *once we have fast growing spiders we can then breed for color or size and not have to wait 20 years to do 4 or 5 female generations.
of course, we would have to be careful to cull out any spiders who manifest goofiness or ugliness =P
well, so far so good. i got a male from http://www.kenthebugguy.com and once he and my female seemed like they were settled in and ready to go i introduced them. the male quickly started body bobbing and a little tapping and then wandered around until he found the females burrow. he actually then lured her out and they mated with her half in/half out of her burrow entrance. the male did some trance dance and then went for the close clutch and got some inserts in. they stayed close for ~5 minutes and then he started retrancing her. i thought it might be to make his escape but it was actually to go in for more inserts. then i bumped the cage and he separated and i removed him. going to wait a couple few days and let them each have a meal before trying again
this species has always been easy to mate in my experience. i believe this is around my sixth pairing between 3-4 females and 3 males and there has never been any grief
it seems like well fed and kept reasonably warm both males and females can mature in around 2 years, though 3+ for females would not be unreasonable for most ppl
thats awesome man...keep us updated...u got vids on youtube yet?
iv got a "tunnel gray spider" which i was told was Cyphonisia sp. about 3 years ago...its like a trap door spider, looks just like the spiders in ur pics...how could i know what species it is?
thats awesome man...keep us updated...u got vids on youtube yet?
iv got a "tunnel gray spider" which i was told was Cyphonisia sp. about 3 years ago...its like a trap door spider, looks just like the spiders in ur pics...how could i know what species it is?
Cyphonisia is in family Barychelidae. tarantulas are in family Theraphosidae. Calisoga is in family Nemesiidae.
Bary has scopulation like Thera which both have a good amount more than Nem. so, your spider could walk up the side of his cage but mine can not
hmmm...now uv got me seriously curious... mine cannot climb the side of the tank...iv seen it try on numerous accounts and never succeed...what other ways could i find out what species this is? hey man...also, i was trying to explain to someone here on IG(tiger) what u had told me about Ts venom not having the ability to cause allergic reactions...shes trying to convince her dad that her Ts are safe... can u please clear this up for me again...thanx in advance... and keep us updated on ur progress...very exciting
....one more question for my scientific talking friend... know anything about the species Ancanthognathus pissi(Chilean zebra rump)??...iv had mine for 3+ years and it just molted for the first time...all these years only eating once. now its eating regularly and doing just fine...not at all an aggressive species...question is, i know this is a dwarf species(shes full size around 3"), are these in fact in the Thera family?...i really havent found much info on them
hmmm...now uv got me seriously curious... mine cannot climb the side of the tank...iv seen it try on numerous accounts and never succeed...what other ways could i find out what species this is? hey man...also, i was trying to explain to someone here on IG(tiger) what u had told me about Ts venom not having the ability to cause allergic reactions...shes trying to convince her dad that her Ts are safe... can u please clear this up for me again...thanx in advance... and keep us updated on ur progress...very exciting
....one more question for my scientific talking friend... know anything about the species Ancanthognathus pissi(Chilean zebra rump)??...iv had mine for 3+ years and it just molted for the first time...all these years only eating once. now its eating regularly and doing just fine...not at all an aggressive species...question is, i know this is a dwarf species(shes full size around 3"), are these in fact in the Thera family?...i really havent found much info on them
thanx man
there are no records of allergic shock or death from tarantulas that we can find. a number of old world species can put the hurt on you, though.
Acanthogonatus should be a Nemesiidae like the sliver, iirc. it's definitely not thera, whatever it is
also, there is a bit of question about the strength of their venom, so do try not to get bit. but if you do, write down everything that happens =P
thanx man...yeah, i was very doubtful of it being a thera...dont think itl bite me though..iv yet to ever see a T so docile. but if i do, i promise il share my experience
as to the allergy thing....i know theres never been a case...but i was hoping u could clear up again what exactly is the chemical in bees and wasps that causes allergic reactions...a chemical T venom lacks...u explained it very well to be before, just cant remember...
Calisoga longitarsus (technically known as Brachythele longitarsus due to a taxonomy error long in the past) are members of the family Nemesiidae, which is not too distantly related to Theraphosidae, the tarantula family.
Adult females range from about 3-4" (8-10cm) diagonal legspan. Adult males can approach this legspan, but are a much lighter build. Some adult males are considerably smaller than females, around 1/8 their weight. In salubrious conditoins in captivity males can mature in under 2 years (and die well under 3 years) and females can mature in under 3 years and live to around 10 years. In nature all these times are probably doubled (with long lifespans to lucky females).
Adult females and near adults of both sexes are typically very quick to present a threat display. They will bite a careless owner, but one (nice) functional difference between these spiders and tarantulas is that these spiders do not have enough sticky pads on their feet to climb vertical smooth surfaces, like glass. This makes managing sometimes crabby spiders much easier!
The coloration of these spiders is particularly interesting. In most light conditions they are essentially brown, with only hints of their metallic colors. In the right kinds of bright light, like a camera flash and some natural and room lighting they show off much more dramatic effects. They become silver with baby blue highlights and rainbow iridescense. The babies start out a sort of translucent white color and do not gain this adult coloration until they are around half grown. Even then, the enhanced coloration is most apparent in adults. Mature females and males display full enhancement, contrary to a lot of other "fancy" mygalomorph/tarantula species.
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