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Permits?
Posted On 01/09/2008 18:10:31 by UffdaGreg

How does one acquire a permit to legally import/raise foreign species within the United States?

I'm getting some flak from some breeders saying I'm venturing into illegal territory by wanting to eclose Atticus atlas and Argema mittrei.  I don't want to do anything illegally.  I'm too old and don't have the heart to be a rebel, anymore.  Maybe when I was twenty and stupid... but not anymore.  I just want to have decent displays, actually.  Dried moths from abroad are impossible to rehydrate the way I'd like them to rehydrate.  The bodies of the dried specimens are squished and matted.  The feelers snap off with a breath and the tails of the Argema mittrei flake apart with static electricity.  And I'm not into paying $300 for somebody's already framed version. 

Hmm.  Maybe I should trade my framed cecropias for their framed Argema mittrei?

 

I'll have to give that some thought.

 


 

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From: UffdaGreg
01/10/2008 23:34:13


Bones wrote:
I agree with Chalcosoma, being responsible is
definitely the key. It would be nice if you could take a class and be
"certified" to own certain imported species. And hasn't Europe been in
the "bug" trade for ALOT longer than the U.S.? Maybe if more people get
into the hobby, we can get our legislators to take some notice. Wouldnt
you vote for the guy that let you get the big beetles? Or moths?
By the way, whats the average fine for having something you shouldn't?

 I'm not sure of the average fine... but it's big enough to put a


significant strain on the average joe's wallet... according to one of


my deviantArt.com buddies.



From: Bones
01/10/2008 21:33:57
I agree with Chalcosoma, being responsible is definitely the key.  It would be nice if you could take a class and be "certified" to own certain imported species.  And hasn't Europe been in the "bug" trade for ALOT longer than the U.S.?  Maybe if more people get into the hobby, we can get our legislators to take some notice.  Wouldnt you vote for the guy that let you get the big beetles? Or moths?
By the way, whats the average fine for having something you shouldn't?


From: UffdaGreg
01/10/2008 20:11:52
Evidently it's a US thing, too.  In Europe they only have bans on certain species.


From: UffdaGreg
01/10/2008 12:06:07


Bones wrote:
Let me know what you find out! You can always hire someone who is 20 and stupid though!

I've
got a thread in the forum over at InsectNet.com in the Lepidoptera
section.  But it's a public forum and evidently this is a sticky
issue with some... so finding out about permits will take some
research.  Big fines are handed out for those that get caught
doing things not on the up and up.  Personally, it never even
dawned on me that I wouldn't be able to eclose a big beautiful moth in
my own home... but when i think about it, it's like duh!  Exotic
species have been known to really mess up an ecosystem if they get
loose and are able to thrive.  Although it's unlikely with the
Argema or the Atticus taking over Minnesota.  For one, the
pesticides and the for two, the bitter cold... both would do them in
pronto.  But then there's desease possibilities and regulations
for species that could be hurt if caught to the point of extinction...
etc, etc, etc.

From: Bones
01/10/2008 11:05:21
Let me know what you find out!  You can always hire someone who is 20 and stupid though!


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